Same Words, Different Worlds: Navigating Roman Catholicism with Dr. Jim Cassidy and Rev. Dan Borvan

Rev. Chris Gordon discusses the theological complexities of Roman Catholicism with guests Jim Cassidy and Dan Borvan. This episode explores why sharing the same vocabulary doesn't always mean sharing the same faith.
Title
Same Words, Different Worlds: Navigating Roman Catholicism with Dr. Jim Cassidy and Rev. Dan Borvan
Summary
Rev. Chris Gordon discusses the theological complexities of Roman Catholicism with guests Jim Cassidy and Dan Borvan. This episode explores why sharing the same vocabulary doesn't always mean sharing the same faith.
Published
Jan 10, 2026
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Pastor Chris Gordon
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Show Notes

In this episode of Abounding Grace Radio, Rev. Chris Gordon is joined by Dr. Jim Cassidy and Dr. Dan Borvan to look into the nuances of Roman Catholic theology from a Reformed perspective. The discussion centers on the "Same Words, Different Worlds" dilemma, examining how terms like justification, grace, and authority carry vastly different meanings across the Tiber.

The panel explores the historical and systematic shifts within the Roman Church, touching on the implications of the papacy and the importance of maintaining a clear, Christ-centered Gospel. Whether you are coming from a Catholic background or looking to better engage with Catholic friends, this conversation provides essential theological clarity.

Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
01:00 - The Appointment of the New Pope
05:00 - Defining "Same Words, Different Worlds"
10:00 - The Reformed View vs. Roman Catholicism
15:00 - Dr. Jim Cassidy’s Background and Testimony
20:00 - The Role of Tradition and Scripture
25:00 - Understanding Justification
30:00 - Thomas Aquinas and Trinitarian Theology
35:00 - The Impact of Vatican II
40:00 - Engaging Catholics with the Gospel
45:00 - Closing Remarks

Guest Information:
Dr. Jim Cassidy: Jim was raised in a Roman Catholic home in Edison, New Jersey. He was later led to the Lord by a friend in his sophomore year of college. Jim previously served in OPC pastorates in Pennsylvania (Johnstown) and New Jersey (Ringoes). In his ministry he has been and continues to be committed to proclaiming Christ and Him crucified from all the Scriptures. Jim earned an MDiv at Westminster Theological Seminary as well as the PhD in Historical and Theological Studies, concentrating in Systematic Theology.
X - @jjcassidy
Jim's Church: https://www.southaustinpres.org/

Rev. Dan Borvan: Rev. Dr. Daniel Borvan is pastor of preaching ministry at christ Reformed Church. Daniel earned his Master of Divinity degree from Westminster Seminary California in 2011. At Westminster Seminary he also earned a Master of Arts degree in Historical Theology. His thesis paper was on Faustus Socinus.
Dan on X - @danborvan
Dan's Church - christreformed.org

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Works: Same Words, Different Worlds
Resources: vaticanfiles.org, https://reformedforum.org/courses/the-trinitarian-theology-of-thomas-aquinas-part-1/

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Guests
Our guests on this episode included:
Rev. Dr. Dan Borvan
Rev. Dr. Dan Borvan

Rev. Dr. Daniel Borvan is pastor of preaching ministry at Christ Reformed Church. Daniel earned his Master of Divinity degree from Westminster Seminary California in 2011. As a student at Westminster Seminary he learned that all study of Scripture, theology, and church history is put into practice in the worship and work of the church. The goal is to glorify Christ by serving His church. At Westminster Seminary he also earned a Master of Arts degree in Historical Theology. His thesis paper was on Faustus Socinus.

Daniel is chairman of the Heidelberg Reformation Association. Some of his published articles are on the Heidelblog website. Daniel was installed as pastor of preaching ministry at Christ Reformed Church, September 29, 2023. Daniel is married to Marcy and they have two daughters and a son.

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Dr. Jim Cassidy
Dr. Jim Cassidy

Dr. James "Jim" Cassidy has been the pastor of SAPC since its inception in July 2014 as a daughter congregation of Providence Presbyterian Church in Pflugerville, Texas.

Jim was raised in a Roman Catholic home in Edison, New Jersey. He was later led to the Lord by a friend in his sophomore year of college. His wife, Eve, was raised in Madison, New Jersey and was led to Christ through the ministry of Grace OPC in Westfield, New Jersey. She is a busy and active mother. Jim and Eve have been blessed with three children: Caitlyn, Ian, and Anna.

Jim previously served in OPC pastorates in Pennsylvania (Johnstown) and New Jersey (Ringoes). In his ministry he has been and continues to be committed to proclaiming Christ and Him crucified from all the Scriptures. Jim earned an MDiv at Westminster Theological Seminary as well as the PhD in Historical and Theological Studies, concentrating in Systematic Theology. You can follow him on Twitter at @jjcassidy.

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